A talk with Grok about my teaching in abandonment. 

This want in us has an indirect way about it. The goal of growth is always to know God better. When we know God better the result is abandonment. Why is it so hard for us to be in a position of enjoying something that we cannot plan ourselves? Is abandonment only something we describe as something that is hard to do or something that is uncommon? Because we are looking at the description of abandonment and not the Person.

Can abandonment be like heaven on earth? Is abandonment something that we cannot describe but something that we find when we know God? If God acts as the original creator then He recreates as the description of order and symmetry in our lives. So we say that the place of abandonment for us personally is something that God creates. Its a place where we are surrounded on all sides.

How do we know that place? We know that God gives all good gifts. He has given us everything that applies to godliness. He has promised to supply all of our needs. He opens His hand and fulfills the desires of all creatures. He gives us the desires of our hearts. How can our losing this world be the a blessing to us? Because we are familiar with the destruction of sin that is mixed with the good things. The freedom we experience is when we are not controlled by anything but we are free to enjoy all things. Why is it that finding life is in feeling totally helpless? Because the things of this world are reduced to what they really are. We push the destructive pull away.

How can we experience the joy and praise of God in losing the things of this world? God must create in us our being fulfilled by the eternal things. We must want those things more than the world. So we find that God dwells in the low places. He is near to the broken hearted the poor and oppressed. God must create a value in our lives where we are pleasurably reduced to being low. Fix itYour reflection touches on profound spiritual themes—abandonment to God, the tension between worldly control and divine surrender, and the paradox of finding joy in loss. Let me refine and clarify your thoughts while addressing your questions directly, aiming for a concise yet meaningful response that aligns with your contemplative tone.

Abandonment to God is not just a concept to describe; it’s a lived experience that emerges from knowing God deeply. It’s challenging because it requires relinquishing our need for control, which feels counterintuitive in a world that values planning and self-sufficiency. Yet, this surrender isn’t merely difficult or rare—it’s a transformative state where we encounter God’s presence as “heaven on earth.” It’s less about defining abandonment and more about meeting the Person of God, who reshapes our desires and reorders our lives with divine symmetry. Can abandonment be like heaven on earth? Yes, because it aligns us with God’s creative order. As the original Creator, God recreates us, surrounding us with His provision and peace. This place of abandonment is where we’re enveloped by His presence, not dictated by our plans but by His purpose. It’s a space where we’re free to enjoy all things because we’re no longer enslaved by them. How do we know this place? God, the giver of all good gifts, provides everything needed for godliness (2 Peter 1:3). He promises to meet our needs (Philippians 4:19), fulfill our desires (Psalm 37:4), and satisfy all creation (Psalm 145:16). We recognize this place when we trust His provision over worldly attachments. Losing the world becomes a blessing because it strips away the destructive power of sin that taints even good things. In this loss, we find freedom—freedom to enjoy life without being controlled by it. Why is feeling helpless life-giving? Because helplessness reveals the true nature of worldly things—temporary and insufficient compared to God’s eternal gifts. When we’re “pleasurably reduced to being low,” we see the world’s pull for what it is: a shadow compared to God’s reality. This humility aligns us with God, who dwells with the lowly and brokenhearted (Isaiah 57:15, Psalm 34:18). Joy and praise emerge not from clinging to the world but from being fulfilled by eternal things—God’s presence, love, and promises. How do we experience this joy in loss? God must cultivate in us a hunger for eternal things over temporal ones. This happens as we seek Him in lowliness, where He meets us. By valuing His presence above worldly gain, we find contentment in surrender. God creates this value in us, teaching us to delight in being surrounded by Him, where true freedom and joy reside.

In essence, abandonment is not a formula we plan but a gift God creates in us. It’s the paradox of losing the world to gain life, where helplessness becomes a doorway to divine joy. By knowing God more, we’re drawn into this sacred space where His order replaces our chaos, and His presence becomes our all.