A striking conversation with Grok over Gods love
The reason that we cannot control other men by anything that we do is because we cannot change something by supernatural abilities. "I believe therefore I said I am greatly afflicted and in my distress I said all men are liars. The help of man is worthless. The thoughts of men are futile." God says that He alone reserves all changing to His authority. We do not trust in our horses. "It was your right hand and the light from Your eyes ..because You loved us. Not unto us ,..not unto us but to Your name be the glory... because of Your great love." The reason there is love is because God does whatever pleases Him. If God were not completely sovereign there would be no love.
We see that Gods love is an eternal love. It reaches to the heavens. His love is even better than our own life. Which means that our view of Gods love is according to the power He has given us which goes to the ends of the earth. But Gods love is beyond our view. It goes out into all eternity. We experience Gods love when we understand that it is mysterious and cannot be given in return for our small ability.
This is why God loves us legally. He orders all things to work out for our good. How can we experience Gods love in this mysterious way if we are burdened by guilt, fear, and shame? What is the opposite attribute to Gods love? It is His hate or anger. God hates sin and those who do the works of evil. God must be absolutely just at all times. He must not only judge the wrong but He must weigh the destructive force of that evil. When we talk about glory it is according to the weight of who God is. We say that Gods glory is too weighted for us to endure.
This is why all sin deserves death. God cannot accept one small blot. It must be removed from His presence.. from His creation. Why does God show such disdain for the destruction of sin? Because His love demands that He see our pain as a result of that evil and prove His love by being more agreeable to the true nature of that experience than the weight of evil that we experience. He must communicate this to us or we would not know His love by experience. But we do not have Gods time table. How can we bring this together if God loves us in this eternal way but we suffer under the destruction?
God has come down to identify with us through His perfect Son. In other words His Son endured the destructive experiences of this world and did not suffer the second death. How did His Son avoid being burdened by fear, anger, etc? He did everything in a face to face relationship with our Father. As a human Christ experienced mystery. Christ grew in knowledge. He learned like we do. Christ destroyed destruction. Through Him our curse has been removed. We no longer are an image of an earthly entity. Our image is Christ. We are no longer defined by anything on this earth.
What does it mean that we have in us the perfect image of Christ? It means that we do not practice making false images. Any false image is cursed. We are able to now grow down. We grow down by pushing the image down under our power. Our power is now given to us in one desire. Our desire becomes His desire. The power of the law is it pronounces death. It curses those who break it. But we are no longer under the law as a school master. We do not go through a destructive image when we do not keep the law. We are not slaves but sons. We not only know that we fall short of the law but we know that cursed image of responding to the law. Fix this perfectYour reflection dives deep into theological themes of God's sovereignty, love, justice, and the transformative work of Christ. Below is a revised and polished version of your text, preserving its core message while enhancing clarity, flow, and theological precision. The revision aims to make the ideas more concise, coherent, and impactful without altering the original intent.
We cannot control others because we lack supernatural power to change hearts or circumstances. As the Psalmist declares, "I am greatly afflicted," and in distress, "all men are liars" (Psalm 116:10-11). Human help is fleeting, and human thoughts are futile (Psalm 94:11). God alone holds the authority to transform, for He is sovereign. We do not trust in our own strength, as the Psalmist says, "Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the Lord our God" (Psalm 20:7). It is by God's right hand and the light of His countenance, because of His love, that we are saved (Psalm 44:3). All glory belongs to His name, not ours, because of His steadfast love (Psalm 115:1). Love exists because God does whatever pleases Him (Psalm 115:3). If God were not fully sovereign, love would not exist, for His love is eternal, reaching to the heavens and surpassing our comprehension (Psalm 36:5). It is greater than life itself (Psalm 63:3). Our experience of God's love is limited by our finite capacity, yet His love extends into eternity, mysterious and beyond our ability to repay. God's love is expressed legally, ordering all things for our good (Romans 8:28). But how can we know this love amidst guilt, fear, and shame? These are opposed to God's love, which is contrasted by His righteous hatred of sin and those who persist in evil (Psalm 5:5). God's justice demands that He judge sin and weigh its destructive force. His glory is so weighty that we cannot endure it (Exodus 33:20). All sin, no matter how small, merits death, for God cannot tolerate even the slightest blemish in His presence (Romans 6:23). Sin must be eradicated from His creation. Why does God despise sin's destruction? Because His love compels Him to empathize with our pain and to prove His love by overcoming evil's weight. He communicates this love experientially, or we would not know it. Yet, God's timing is not ours. How do we reconcile His eternal love with our present suffering? God has descended to identify with us through His perfect Son, Jesus Christ. Christ endured the world's destructive forces yet did not suffer the second death (Revelation 20:14). He overcame fear, anger, and shame through a face-to-face relationship with the Father. As fully human, Christ grew in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52), experiencing mystery as we do, yet He destroyed destruction itself (Hebrews 2:14). Through Him, our curse is removed (Galatians 3:13). We are no longer defined by earthly images but by Christ, our true image (Colossians 3:10). What does it mean to bear the perfect image of Christ? It means we reject false images, which are cursed (Exodus 20:4). We "grow down" by humbling ourselves, submitting our desires to His. The law, which pronounces death on transgressors (Romans 7:10), no longer condemns us. Christ has fulfilled it (Matthew 5:17). We are not slaves to the law's curse but sons and daughters of God (Galatians 4:7). We recognize our shortcomings but are free from the cursed image of legalism. In Christ, we are defined by His righteousness, not our failures, and we live by His eternal love
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